tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post7952450469442820617..comments2024-03-07T18:38:58.284-08:00Comments on kidchamp dot net: laurenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03429404210444847213noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-49511009966881428302011-03-17T11:33:25.000-07:002011-03-17T11:33:25.000-07:00Hmmmm ... Just Kids is on my library hold list (um...Hmmmm ... Just Kids is on my library hold list (um, I am 132 on the list for 67 circulating copies) but now I'm wondering if it is going to drive me crazy. I have zero patience for unnecessary angst, even if it relates to artistry. I'm woefully boug-y in that way.<br /><br />Haven't read Tolstoy, should.<br /><br />If beef tea is plain beef broth, yes. As a kid, I liked drinking it and pretending I was poor and only had broth. Most of my childhood daydreams involved a) being poor and having to do manual labor or b) being abandoned in the wilderness and having to fashion things out of sticks and hunt for food. I have a thing for self reliance, I guess.Rachel (heart of light)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-55129198022557004832011-03-17T12:16:24.000-07:002011-03-17T12:16:24.000-07:00my vehemence about this one surprised me; i think ...my vehemence about this one surprised me; i think part of it is that i finished the book a long time ago, and it fell between books about people who had <i>really big </i>problems. i also let my irritation with the poverty-flashing eclipse some actual fondness for some of PS's anecdotes (she did in fact meet a lot of really interesting people, even if their names were the most interesting parts of her anecdotes most of the time). <br /><br />that said, i call bullshit on the morphine angel singing from the fire escape. kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-47046950697256288482011-03-17T12:39:22.000-07:002011-03-17T12:39:22.000-07:001) I have. I took a course in college entitled The...1) I have. I took a course in college entitled The 19th Century Russian Novel and went through a Big Novel phase. It's not my favorite, though I liked it. I liked War and Peace better, Tolstoy-wise and (at the time at least) preferred Dostoevsky in the great Russian doorstop contest. I was both more pretentious and smarter then though.<br />4) I remember very much liking Tess (the book and heroine), but I read it a while ago and can't remember it well enough to answer your question.<br />5) Emphatically no.<br />6) See #5<br />7 + 8) I hate that shit too. I was looking forward to reading Just Kids, but now perhaps I'll just save my time.<br />9) Nope. I have been to BF Skinner's and Edgar Allen Poe's. And HP Lovecraft's (as you know). I only visit the graves of famous people with 3 names.megannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-80802004991741925882011-03-17T12:53:00.000-07:002011-03-17T12:53:00.000-07:00now i'm worried that i'm waving you guys a...now i'm worried that i'm waving you guys away from a book which should be read. either way, it's quick? <br /><br />did anyone leave interesting stuff at skinner's grave? what about poe's? i think i would give them each a pellet.kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-81068777728301403632011-03-17T12:57:34.000-07:002011-03-17T12:57:34.000-07:0001 It does. Shoomp, indeed.
02 I imagine they'...01 It does. <i>Shoomp</i>, indeed.<br />02 I imagine they're in a club together.<br />03 Writing Russian voting tutorials just takes it out of one.<br />04 Emma Bovary is THE WORST ONE. But certainly for Tess and...sort of for Anna.<br />05 Certainly. I'm with Rachel on the Hansel-and-Gretel childhood fantasies. Can there be stale bread, too?<br />09 Accidently, though I thought he might be more likely than Oscar Wilde to keep me safe(-ish) if Pere-Lachaise closed for the day and I was thrown into a crypt and LOCKED INSIDE FOREVER.<br />10 Kitty and Levin. Amandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-38998728739231489492011-03-17T14:33:42.000-07:002011-03-17T14:33:42.000-07:00well, there's this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wi...well, there's this: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_Toaster" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe_Toaster</a><br />i didn't know that they had stopped.megannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-14227607520795285912011-03-17T15:00:12.000-07:002011-03-17T15:00:12.000-07:00i'll cop to being immature enough that i would...i'll cop to being immature enough that i would've wanted to stop by the evening before the birthday to leave a box of post toasties for the poe toaster.kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-10148140348663244742011-03-17T15:07:42.000-07:002011-03-17T15:07:42.000-07:00I have never read Patti Smith, and Anna's stor...I have never read Patti Smith, and Anna's story I founf was so long ago and far away that I probably still believed love warranted railroad tracks.anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-38749414314247534012011-03-17T15:08:13.000-07:002011-03-17T15:08:13.000-07:00And that guest making typos was me. Lisa. Found. I...And that guest making typos was me. Lisa. Found. I found it a long time ago.anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-40436149556061017202011-03-17T20:31:45.000-07:002011-03-17T20:31:45.000-07:00I can't believe these two books are battling! ...I can't believe these two books are battling! One of my book clubs (don't ask) just read Just Kids and I think I was the only one who was like, Barf Me Out The Door And Back In Again. SO TERRIBLE. It should definitely not be read, if only because somebody might start to think that's what poetry is, and poetry has a hard enough time. And then a friend in my other book club lent me Anna Karenina, and I am 550 pages into that, and feeling like: aaaah. I guess I don't hate the Russians after all.<br /><br />And here I thought your DFW jones made us irreconcilable.<br /><br />ps, what's question 10 that Amanda's answering?Katherine Cortesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-73497457107206129742011-03-17T20:55:16.000-07:002011-03-17T20:55:16.000-07:00oh, my dear, my dear, i just adore every hair on y...oh, my dear, my dear, i just adore every hair on your head right now. i'll read vicariously through you until this beast of research is done, and there'll be some actual comfort in it. i think i deserve some detailed countrysides and nicely-wrought characters, or i will in other month.<br /><br />i read AK so long ago that i didn't get to sink into tolstoy quite as i could've, but i do remember being frustrated (by anna - perhaps in the same family as your thinking about love, in one's 20s, etc., i think) and still engaged by it. but having re-read austen more recently, i'm not averse to revisiting. i'm now thinking, though: would tolstoy best updike?<br /><br />i also think your snort was spot on, but i have a serious, deep-seated antipathy toward the doors, full stop.<br /><br />god, i miss novels...i think i'll have a contest to choose what my first one should be, once i'm back down to earth.wabesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-25219795895566545072011-03-18T07:22:16.000-07:002011-03-18T07:22:16.000-07:00you're probably right; wilde would throw down ...you're probably right; wilde would throw down <i>bons mots</i> and be <i>eaten.</i> (i think i assumed there were ghouls in the crypt. not sure how that happened.)kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-63603628453507893032011-03-18T07:27:22.000-07:002011-03-18T07:27:22.000-07:00lisa, have you ever heard the magnetic fields'...lisa, have you ever heard the magnetic fields' "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEa_Dka0Nv4" rel="nofollow">born on a train</a>"? it's one of my favorite songs. (if you have that <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/dining/14curious.html" rel="nofollow">anti-cilantro-esque</a> gene which prevents you from appreciating stephin merritt, the lyrics are <a href="http://www.lyricstime.com/magnetic-fields-born-on-a-train-lyrics.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.) that video is kind of a cross between <i>anna karenina </i>and <i>just kids</i>, now that i think about it. kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-70511218920431168422011-03-18T07:33:38.000-07:002011-03-18T07:33:38.000-07:00it makes me feel much better that you agree, kathe...it makes me feel much better that you agree, katherine; if folks on both sides of the DFW divide can agree on patti smith, perhaps she should look into a new editor. <br /><br />my email to paul when i was halfway though <i>anna </i>was something like, "i don't have to be afraid of this at all! it's just austen with sleighs!" which isn't true at all, but i get that same comfort-food feeling from his brand of realism. i do like russians (gogol, bulgakov, and mayakovsky in particular), but i was very wary of tolstoy. i wonder if i'd like chekhov; scarlett thomas's <a href="http://www.kidchamp.net/2011_01_01_archive.html#7932390645566918437" rel="nofollow">comments</a> on his understanding of poverty make me suspect as much.<br /><br />amanda's 10 is, i think, general enthusiasm for the acronym-courtship in the kitty and levin scenes, but you'd have to ask her to be sure. kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-88857449344029271672011-03-18T07:41:11.000-07:002011-03-18T07:41:11.000-07:00tolstoy knows a hell of a lot more about women tha...tolstoy knows a hell of a lot more about women than updike does, for sure. updike's appeal for me is so wrapped up in word choice that i'd have to have mad russian skillz to compare them meaningfully, though a one-on-one fifty-word sprint about farming would be a fascinating meet. <br /><br />i think most people who aren't sixteen or weren't sixteen in the sixties have antipathy toward the doors, but i do like "peace frog." that said, put a shirt on, dude.kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-40745257971266393922011-03-18T09:15:30.000-07:002011-03-18T09:15:30.000-07:00there's a laura lippman novel that revolves ar...there's a laura lippman novel that revolves around a murder at the poe grave. lippman is fun, though moreso if you are familiar with baltimore.jacobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-53954104746827403642011-03-18T09:23:33.000-07:002011-03-18T09:23:33.000-07:0001 i have read it, but have (like megan) forgotten...01 i have read it, but have (like megan) forgotten most of it. i remember being more interested in the liberal landowner tolstoy stand-in than anna, but i'd probably have a different reaction to the book now.<br /><br />05 does pho count?<br /><br />06 i'll cop to listening to 'because the night' on youtube, but that's about it.<br /><br />08 i have not read it, though my mom selected it for her book club, enjoyed it, and passed it onto us when we were in CA last month. so there it sits, unread and forlorn on our bookshelf. thanks a lot, lauren.jacobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-21167390593954041722011-03-18T09:33:46.000-07:002011-03-18T09:33:46.000-07:00oh, go for it. think of her as chuck klosterman wi...oh, go for it. think of her as chuck klosterman without boobs.kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-19394053055607539152011-03-18T10:24:43.000-07:002011-03-18T10:24:43.000-07:001) Yes.
2) ? Still working Lovecraft references.
3...1) Yes.<br />2) ? Still working Lovecraft references.<br />3) I don't know. If this were Proust, I say it was so we couid feel our own lack of knowledge and hopeless desire to possess the characters all the more acutely. Not sure about Tolstoy.<br />4) I judge Anna, but I judge all literary characters. It's my own problem.<br />5) no<br />6) No, and this review makes me think I'm not missing much.<br />7) no! The only excuse for skipping out on a bill is sheer absent-mindedness . . . maybe that's self-serving . . .<br />8) I haven't read it . . . I respect Emily Gould's taste though, and she likes it. But the parts you quote are pretty irksome. <br />9) nomaggienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-77947841808742850522011-03-18T10:27:54.000-07:002011-03-18T10:27:54.000-07:00working ON Lovecraft referenceworking ON Lovecraft referencemaggienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-20146262322960132472011-03-18T15:14:20.000-07:002011-03-18T15:14:20.000-07:00Lush, pretty, kind of like the Monkees. In a good ...Lush, pretty, kind of like the Monkees. In a good way.anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-61972904275477512052011-03-18T22:45:06.000-07:002011-03-18T22:45:06.000-07:0001: All I know is in a surprise move, Russ Meyer f...01: All I know is in a surprise move, Russ Meyer films and Nabokov’s Lectures on Russian Literature combined one night in a forgotten suburb of Denver when a remarkably chesty and considerably drunk (and uninterested) young Russian lady spent fifteen surreal minutes begrudgingly trying to teach me how to pronounce Gogol’s name properly. She did not Spock Drop-Kick me or anything, though, sadly (R.I.P. Tura.), or illuminate any obscure passages from The Master and Margarita. 02: As they plunge from world to world through the sky? The only Young Ones the Great Old Ones like were on BBC2 back in the early ‘80s. 06: As an aural illiterate, may I ask whether or not I’m supposed to say yes or no to save face? 07: Fuck no. 09: All I know is that scene in The Doors near the end where Val Kilmer invites a band mate to admire his growing belly and mumbles something about being “like a beast” or something, that is just where Jim started growing on me. 0?: I also can’t pronounce fin de siècle. I’m like, “J K Huysmans’ La-Bas is great! He wrote it after hanging out with a deranged priest in fin’d’sickle… er… fan duh s… sss… at the tail end of the 19th century, France.”anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-62671597910643110672011-03-19T07:29:26.000-07:002011-03-19T07:29:26.000-07:00re: 01, i once saw a drunk beauty pageant type rai...re: 01, i once saw a drunk beauty pageant type rain blows upon a bunch of harvard lampoon staffers with the very wiffle bat with which they, the poonies, were to play ball against the hebrew club while she, the pageant type, sang "deep in the heart of texas." i, in my turn, strove mightily to speak russian to a bunch of polish hipsters at some party in soho a bunch of years ago and was more or less indulged.<br /><br />re: 06, it's probably more stylish to say yes. fuck 'yes,' though. <br /><br />re: 0?, i was saying mapple-rhymes-with-apple-thorpe until joe informed me it's supposed to be maple-thorpe, or maypole-thorpe, or...i hate that guy. anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-17727405956388502462011-03-19T07:30:46.000-07:002011-03-19T07:30:46.000-07:00balls! that was me. seriously, comment platform, c...balls! that was me. seriously, comment platform, could you be any worse?kidchampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3134668.post-39216989719912660142011-03-19T11:27:54.000-07:002011-03-19T11:27:54.000-07:00And that was me (battering myself about the head a...And that was me (battering myself about the head a la Chris Farley: I’m so stupid!). 09: I once spent a grave evening in mock-up mountain town Morrison CO eating Mexican. Why? God’ield you, pretty lady, je ne sais pas.Milkmaid's dumb friendnoreply@blogger.com